Jump to content


Photo

Cutters bolts wanted.


  • Please log in to reply
116 replies to this topic

#61 Cutter

Cutter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1165 posts

Posted 18 April 2019 - 02:21 PM

Cutter, there is a third turned piece that strikes the firing pin. I seem to recall you eliminated the funky flathead screw. Do you have a sketch of it? I might as well get a quote on that too while I’m at it.

 

The hammer shaft was made from O1 tool steel , and hardened
6-32 thread  X  1/2" deep

Attached Files


  • gbull likes this

#62 Cutter

Cutter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1165 posts

Posted 20 April 2019 - 06:51 PM

I need a new Carrier block to check
all the new bolts coming up.
Might as well build another gun.
 

Attached Files

  • Attached File  005.JPG   142.96KB   1 downloads

  • bruski likes this

#63 maccrazy2

maccrazy2

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 215 posts

Posted 20 April 2019 - 10:46 PM

Are you boring full depth or flipping it over and going from both sides?

#64 Cutter

Cutter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1165 posts

Posted 21 April 2019 - 12:23 AM

Are you boring full depth or flipping it over and going from both sides?

 

Boring full depth, 1.75 through with a
3/8 boring bar

  • bruski likes this

#65 maccrazy2

maccrazy2

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 215 posts

Posted 21 April 2019 - 01:03 AM

I have figured out the hole pattern features on the DRO I put on the Bridgeport. The directions were a little lacking but YouTube got me going. I also got a rotary table in preparation for this build. Unfortunately time is a little limited but I’m getting going as time allows.
  • bruski likes this

#66 Cutter

Cutter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1165 posts

Posted 21 April 2019 - 02:47 PM

I have figured out the hole pattern features on the DRO I put on the Bridgeport. The directions were a little lacking but YouTube got me going. I also got a rotary table in preparation for this build. Unfortunately time is a little limited but I’m getting going as time allows.

 

In my opinion the rotary table is
easier and safer for the bolt circle

  • bruski and gbull like this

#67 gbull

gbull

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 52 posts
  • LocationGold Bar Wa.

Posted 23 April 2019 - 02:40 AM

I see a logistics problem developing here.
Maybe everyone involved should buy their own 3/4” diameter 303 stainless,
and do the preliminary lathe work.
Here’s a sketch for the lathe operation  
 
Comments ????
 
 

I will do the CNC operation for 50% of the quantity you want.
Want 10, send 15
The CNC operation consist of the radius & flats, cutting the follower,
holes and slots for extractor and firing pin
 
More Comments ????



#68 gbull

gbull

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 52 posts
  • LocationGold Bar Wa.

Posted 23 April 2019 - 02:43 AM

Cutter, would you want 50% of just the bodies? Or caps and strikers also in exchange for the mill work? Should have numbers tomorrow for all three turned pieces and heat treat.

#69 Cutter

Cutter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1165 posts

Posted 23 April 2019 - 02:27 PM

Cutter, would you want 50% of just the bodies? Or caps and strikers also in exchange for the mill work? Should have numbers tomorrow for all three turned pieces and heat treat.

 

I was referring to the bolt & cap, but I’ll
need the hammer shafts also

  • gbull likes this

#70 maccrazy2

maccrazy2

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 215 posts

Posted 28 April 2019 - 10:22 PM

I need a new Carrier block to check
all the new bolts coming up.
Might as well build another gun.
 

What type of boring bar are you using? It oldmost looks like it has flutes

#71 Cutter

Cutter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1165 posts

Posted 28 April 2019 - 10:52 PM

What type of boring bar are you using? It oldmost looks like it has flutes

 

Your right Chris,
It’s a 3/8 two flute, with relieved shank.


#72 maccrazy2

maccrazy2

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 215 posts

Posted 29 April 2019 - 01:21 AM

Was it for rigidly or just what you had on hand that worked well?
I’m chomping at the bit to make some chips. Waiting on the 3in brass and reamers to arrive. I hope to get the the rotating assembly mostly built before I will have to shelf it for a while and get back to my usual work

#73 gbull

gbull

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 52 posts
  • LocationGold Bar Wa.

Posted 30 April 2019 - 04:36 AM

Got back first quote for turning
Body 11.05/125qty
10.08/200qty
Cap. 5.92/125qty
5.46/200qty
Hammer shaft 8.26/125qty Not including heat treat. Hoping to get them all in one lot for 150 min. lot charge.
6.89/200qty
The first two seem ok, the hammer shaft seems high. He is gonna look at it and see why. I have sent out to two more places. At the 200 part quantities it comes to 22.43 per ass. If you decide to have Cutter do the mill work the final cost would work out to be 33.65. Seems like a fair trade at this point, I remember he was getting 30 before, and I think that was without the firing pin hole and the ejector slot and holes. Does that sound right, Cutter? I should have more info soon.

#74 Cutter

Cutter

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 1165 posts

Posted 30 April 2019 - 02:28 PM

Got back first quote for turning
Body 11.05/125qty
10.08/200qty
Cap. 5.92/125qty
5.46/200qty
Hammer shaft 8.26/125qty Not including heat treat. Hoping to get them all in one lot for 150 min. lot charge.
6.89/200qty
The first two seem ok, the hammer shaft seems high. He is gonna look at it and see why. I have sent out to two more places. At the 200 part quantities it comes to 22.43 per ass. If you decide to have Cutter do the mill work the final cost would work out to be 33.65. Seems like a fair trade at this point, I remember he was getting 30 before, and I think that was without the firing pin hole and the ejector slot and holes. Does that sound right, Cutter? I should have more info soon.

 

I agree,the body & caps look good.
If you go for 200 body & caps, I’ll buy what’s left over.  
 
I sold bolt bodies & caps with firing pin hole for 30 bucks


#75 gbull

gbull

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 52 posts
  • LocationGold Bar Wa.

Posted 08 May 2019 - 10:19 PM

The final quote came in at $21.50. That’s for a bolt body, cap, and heat treated hammer shaft. Including myself there seem to be five of us on the list. The total I came up with was 120. I am ordering 200 sets. It looks like five weeks lead time plus another week for heat treating the hammer shafts. Cutters offer on the mill work makes the price work out to $32.25 for a complete bolt, minus the firing pin, spring, and ejector pieces. I will post when they get here. Sorry it took so long, but I think it was worth it.
  • Cutter likes this

#76 maccrazy2

maccrazy2

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 215 posts

Posted 08 May 2019 - 11:16 PM

I’ll take the 3 sets and 3-5 extra bolts for spares
  • maccrazy2 likes this

#77 maccrazy2

maccrazy2

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 215 posts

Posted 08 May 2019 - 11:18 PM

Thanks for doing the leg work. I’m still trying to get a quote for barrels.

#78 gbull

gbull

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 52 posts
  • LocationGold Bar Wa.

Posted 15 June 2019 - 12:41 AM

The bolt pieces are back from the lathe shop. I have 200 assemblies. I am keeping 48, leaving 152 for sale. 48 will give me 32 after giving Cutter 16 for the mill work. As far as the ejectors, firing pins and firing pin springs I think we can each get our own. I seem to recall Cutter had a part # from a spring house for the firing pin spring. The ejectors and springs are available from many suppliers. The firing pins I believe are just .060 piercing punches from McMaster Carr. The firing pin springs might be cheaper in bulk. Any thoughts Cutter?

#79 maccrazy2

maccrazy2

    Advanced Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 215 posts

Posted 15 June 2019 - 01:05 AM

I will take 33 bolt assemblies for myself and 17 for Jerry for a grand total of 50 assemblies. Thanks for getting this rolling for us and, thanks to Jerry for the machining.

#80 drhardin

drhardin

    Advanced Member

  • Moderators
  • 121 posts
  • LocationNorth East Ohio

Posted 15 June 2019 - 11:22 AM

Would these bolts be a direct replacement for the RGG designed bolts? We built our RGG per plans using bolts from Cutter. Made one major mistake. We milled the barrel away for the ejector clearance and that lets the shell casing blow out and jams the gun. I need to cut off the barrels and redo them making the gun a little shorter. I would like to have the Ruger style ejector so if these are a direct replacement I would take 11. I have had some medical issues the past two years but am hoping I can now get back in the shop.

Thanks Dennis






0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users