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#41 epps1919

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 06:24 PM

More trail pix.

 

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#42 epps1919

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 06:25 PM

his is 2 pix of a original carriage and a reproduction. I want mine to look like them and I am going to paint the gun and carriage olive drab and semi gloss black for the metal parts

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 12:35 AM

Epps, I have read that some of the coffee mill guns used a shroud over the barrel that forced air over the barrel to cool it. Not sure if it had a fan driven by the muzzle blast within the shroud with the bullet firing through the center of the fan as the muzzle blast turned the fan, (like firing a bullet through a hole made in the center of a pinwheel so the muzzle blast will turn the pinwheel and pull in fresh air from the rear of the shroud over the barrel).....or if it worked on a vacuum/forced air induction created by the muzzle blast going forward and thus pulling in fresh air from the rear of the shroud (like the WW1 Lewis gun barrel cooling shroud works), but I do remember reading there was some kind of an apparatus like that for helping to cool the single barrel. But haven't been able to find out much online about how it worked nor any pics of it. In your studies of the coffee mill gun, I'm sure you've also heard about what I'm talking about. Do you plan on trying to replicate that forced air barrel cooling shroud like was used on some of them back in the day? 

 

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I have heard of it and not found any thing on it, It maybe a mith or an idea that never came to.



#44 Bill Akins

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 02:26 AM

I have heard of it and not found any thing on it, It maybe a myth or an idea that never came to.

 

This is from wikipedia: "Agar also added a cooling mechanism to the barrel, which consisted of a metal jacket through which air was forced to provide cooling. The air came from a turbine, which was powered by the same hand crank that was used to fire the weapon. This cooling air also tended to blow away any pieces of unburned paper from the cartridge that happened to be near the barrel. The rate of fire was also limited to 120 rounds per minute, which helped to prevent overheating." 

 

Sounds like it used a turbine fan within the shroud that was powered by the same crank that fired the gun. 

 

Here's the link to the above quote and article. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agar_gun

 

 

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#45 Cutter

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 05:00 PM

Epps,

 Really a nice build, very inspiring.
We all need a little inspiration occasionally.
Thanks again
Jerry


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Posted 28 December 2014 - 02:55 AM

This is from wikipedia: "Agar also added a cooling mechanism to the barrel, which consisted of a metal jacket through which air was forced to provide cooling. The air came from a turbine, which was powered by the same hand crank that was used to fire the weapon. This cooling air also tended to blow away any pieces of unburned paper from the cartridge that happened to be near the barrel. The rate of fire was also limited to 120 rounds per minute, which helped to prevent overheating." 

 

Sounds like it used a turbine fan within the shroud that was powered by the same crank that fired the gun. 

 

Here's the link to the above quote and article. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agar_gun

 

 

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The 4 existing original guns do not have any type of cooling system on them as described above.  The 120 rounds a minute is about right.  My gun will shoot about 2 rounds per second if you crank it fast.



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Posted 01 January 2015 - 05:18 PM

Wow that's cool. :mrgreen: 



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Posted 02 January 2015 - 04:12 AM

Very Cool! You should make plans and sell them.
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Posted 03 January 2015 - 12:52 AM

Very Cool! You should make plans and sell them.
Mike

I'm thinking about it.



#50 DonLans

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Posted 03 January 2015 - 02:42 AM

I would be interested in a set.  Very nice job on that gun.



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Posted 04 January 2015 - 12:54 AM

I would be interested in a set.  Very nice job on that gun.

Thank's, put a lot of time in to it.



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Posted 06 January 2015 - 03:36 AM

If you make plans I'm in. Would be fun to shoot

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Posted 27 July 2015 - 03:39 PM

Very cool. Please add me to your list of people interested in plans should you decide to make them available.

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Posted 04 December 2015 - 06:49 PM

I have greatly appreciated your insightfulness and ingenuity. realistically what are the possibilities of getting/buying your notes on the parts dimensions? 



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Posted 27 June 2017 - 03:03 AM

It's been a while and wanted to know if you ever did any plans for this gun. I would love to make one. I'm in southeast PA and see you are in Maryland. If you are close would love to see it in person.

Dave




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